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O'ranga'Stang
06-17-2007, 04:29 PM
Texas DOT to Install Federally Funded Highway Speed Cameras
Despite the opposition of the state legislature, the Texas Department of Transportation proposes a federally funded speed camera test.

TxDOT logoDespite the near-unanimous opposition in the state legislature to the use of speed cameras, the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is moving forward on a proposal to deploy photo radar on state highways using federal gas tax funds. Legislation awaiting Governor Rick Perry's signature prohibited only municipalities -- like Marble Falls and Rhome -- from installing automated speeding ticket systems. It was silent on the possibility of a state-run system (read legislation).

TxDOT began searching in April for a vendor that, using federal funds, would allow the agency "to assess and evaluate all elements of an automated speed notification system." Once selected, the vendor would operate an average time speed camera test for at least six months on Interstate 10 near El Paso and State Highway 6 near College Station.

Time-distance ticketing systems use multiple cameras spaced far apart on a freeway. Each car is photographed once as it enters the first section of road. Miles later a second photograph is taken that allows the vehicle's average speed to be calculated from the time it took to travel between the two locations. In use in Britain under the trade name SPECS, these cameras are commonly referred to as "yellow vultures" and are among the most lucrative in the country.

In its request for proposals, TxDOT cited success of speed cameras in the UK, which generated £120 million (US $240 million) in revenue in 2003, and in Washington, DC, which has generated $217 million in revenue with its red light and speed cameras since 1999. TxDOT's vendor will send notices -- warnings at first -- to motorists driving just 5 MPH over the limit with an accuracy level of +/- 2 MPH, meaning those driving just 3 MPH over the limit could receive a photograph and letter in the mail.

The River Cities Daily Tribune, which first reported the story last week, noted that TxDOT also ordered Marble Falls to remove its speed camera van from state highways in April citing safety concerns.

"How hypocritical is that?" Marble Falls Mayor Raymond Whitman told the Daily Tribune. "I have a bit of a problem with it, not because they're using the camera, but because if it's unsafe for us to use, how can it be safe for the state to do it?"

this will be cutting into my play time! i guess i could lobby against it :thumbs:

Bulldog Stang
06-17-2007, 07:32 PM
I dont really have an opinion on this, only questions ...

1. What if i loan the vehicle to someone ?
2. What if I recently moved and i have not updated my address with my local tax office ?
3. Who or where is the court for this if I want to fight it ?
4. Or is it an automatic guilty verdict if caught by camera ?

O'ranga'Stang
06-17-2007, 09:11 PM
I dont really have an opinion on this, only questions ...

1. What if i loan the vehicle to someone ?
2. What if I recently moved and i have not updated my address with my local tax office ?
3. Who or where is the court for this if I want to fight it ?
4. Or is it an automatic guilty verdict if caught by camera ?

thats all unanswered from what i could find so far. what gets me is how they don't even try to put a spin on it like we've done research and by installing such cameras this would save lives buy cutting down on x amount of traffic accidents in a year blah ,blah, blah. no it is just about the dollars and even if they did put a spin on it it would still be about the dollars but at least when they are bending us over they would be whispering sweet nothings to us instead of wrapping the shlong with 60 grit sand paper and then getting some!

Steeda Snakes
06-17-2007, 10:03 PM
Find the cameras....................and spray paint the lenses..........



J/K!!!

Jitsu Jr.
06-17-2007, 11:03 PM
the best thing is, we all know steeda isnt kidding


and we would all want to spray paint the lenses if they did install them

jitsumania
06-17-2007, 11:20 PM
Stealth spray for license plate covers!

rumblebox
06-17-2007, 11:27 PM
anybody here really good with a paintball gun?

grendel
06-17-2007, 11:28 PM
i am

Bulldog Stang
06-18-2007, 12:30 AM
^^^ he is

c-low
06-18-2007, 12:38 AM
so i guess if youre rushing someone to the hospital you automatically get a ticket? what about when theres a police chase? are all the officers gonna get tickets delivered to there desks?

Bulldog Stang
06-18-2007, 01:05 AM
Officers are exempt from following the traffic laws when they are on duty and in a patrol vehicle ....

Driving w/o lights (headlights)
Speeding
Unsafe Speed (driving too slow)
Seatbelt

Just to name a few .... :):)

c-low
06-18-2007, 01:23 AM
the police chase was a joke. but in my opinion its a waste of money.

Jitsu Jr.
06-18-2007, 02:16 AM
I dont think it will get a signature, unless Rick Perry really doesnt want to get re-elected.

clear_darkness
06-18-2007, 03:05 PM
Rick Perry prob won't get re-elected anyway...too many people he's pissed off.

O'ranga'Stang
06-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Stealth spray for license plate covers!

thats exactly what i'll be using :thumbs:

jitsumania
06-18-2007, 06:19 PM
Stealth spray for license plate covers!

thats exactly what i'll be using :thumbs:

For those of you who thought I was kidding, I was'nt. It really does exists and makes your license plate invisible to the camera. The license plate is what they use to ID you as it snaps the pic of your car. Currently not illegal and extremely hard to detect as it is a clear substance. Can be sprayed directly on your LP or the LP cover.

SuperStallion
06-18-2007, 10:32 PM
i like that idea jitsu

Bulldog Stang
06-19-2007, 12:15 AM
and where do you get this stuff ????

64malibuss
06-19-2007, 01:06 AM
dont tell him hes one of them!!!!

Jitsu Jr.
06-19-2007, 02:52 AM
dont tell him hes one of them!!!!



HAHAHA



bulldog wouldn't tell on us, or would he?

98Aggie
06-19-2007, 03:29 AM
Stuff only works at certian camera angles. So depending on where the cameras are mounted it might work it might not.

jitsumania
06-19-2007, 08:54 AM
Here is one of the links:
www.phantomplate.com (http://www.phantomplate.com)
There are plenty of others. Just enter "license plate spray" in your search window. It operates by overexposing the picture of your plate so they cant get an accurate reading. Plate covers and laminates with light reflecting crystals are also available. GPS alert warning devices have also been developed to detect these traps ahead of time.

Might is good, Won't is not! ,lol

64malibuss
06-19-2007, 12:38 PM
gps alert warning system??? tell me more

Bulldog Stang
06-19-2007, 12:40 PM
dont tell him hes one of them!!!!



HAHAHA



bulldog wouldn't tell on us, or would he?

Hell no !!! I want some for myself ... LMAO

Jitsu Jr.
06-19-2007, 01:14 PM
I want some for myself


why would you want one bulldog? why would a law enforcing officer like you ever speed? :rofl:

Bulldog Stang
06-19-2007, 09:43 PM
I want it so that I can show my chief (if we get those down here) that NOTHING is full proof ...

98Aggie
06-19-2007, 09:57 PM
will they read over 200 mph?

Jitsu Jr.
06-19-2007, 10:11 PM
lol

98STANGWITHTHEBANG
06-19-2007, 10:42 PM
kurt we can find out your car threw on of the speed traps!!!!! you get a ticket we know it works!!!!!

FatHead
06-20-2007, 05:52 PM
Thats total crap imho.... They better hope i never find one...