V-Line Racing Fundraser

i realize it's late notice, but like i said i'd post it later this week when it's confirmed, plus, i have not concept of time or days.
we're having a fund raiser up at Fina on Friday and Saturday nights starting at 9pm. we'll be selling drinks for .50 and cookies for .50. the reason we're having this, is cause some of us are broke as hell and have problems with our cars (no jokes about my car on that one! lol) and we need to fix those problems. anyway. yall come out and help us out. some of you haven't been out there and were talking about it. so come..hang out for a while, buy a couple of cokes and a few cookies and stay for a bit. see yall there. Shadow Soldier and myself won't be there until about 11:15-11:30 but my chick will be there in the truck with the cokes and cookies. just ask her if you wanna help. thanks guys. and we're planning bigger and better fund raisers in the future if this one doesn't turn out enough money.

[dsm_talon77901]

.50 for cookies ahahah :roll: yall must be poor

[Steeda Snakes]

We didn't get a chance to finish discussing this matter. If you are not set-up as an "official" organization, you are asking for trouble with this one. You mentioned that you thought this would be the same as a "fund raiser" that a school would hold for new football equipment or a band field trip.

WRONG!

Have you filed the necessary paperwork to be classified as a "tax exempt" entity? Schools are "tax exempt" in the eyes of the law. This function can not be classified as a charity event, because I don't believe the need for your members to "fix" their cars could be classified as a charity.

You are trying to sell a product, with the intent "to make a profit", therefore you could not be classified as a "not for profit" organization. This would mean that current tax laws would apply.

You have a novel idea, but if you are not a legally established organization, you are asking for trouble.

Personally, I think that trying to get people to help pay to fix your member's cars is a bit of a stretch. I believe the general populace will not look favorably on your membership with this type of "fund raiser".

Organize your club, legalize it, obtain sponsorships and discounts to better serve your membership.

I will let this thread exsist, because I believe in everyone's right to free speech and their right to free enterprise (your still not legal in the eyes of the government). Again, I don't agree with your methods.

[Steeda Snakes]

.50 for cookies ahahah :roll: yall must be poor

See what I mean about how the general populace will view this idea. :roll:

[Stealth assassin]

the reason we're having this, is cause some of us are broke as hell and have problems with our cars (no jokes about my car on that one! lol) and we need to fix those problems. .

so what your saying tj is that you want us to help you build your car?? rite? HAHAHAHAHA :lol: OMG dude stop plz stop i know you have your heart in the rite place but COME ON 50CENT'S for a coke and cookies??!! ..... :? sounds good to me :thumbs: hahaha J/K TJ!! :roll: only you whould post somthing as gay as this on here. :lol:

first off. these cookies are actually sold for a lot more than this manny. so .50 for these cookies is damn good. and as for us wanting you to help "build" our cars...no. we're asking people to help us build up enough money to actually get our cars running correctly. you know the kind of problems my car keeps popping up with, and you also know that i do not have the money to fix the problems myself. so we're trying to get a little help...so what....if you don't like it....don't come. if it doesn't go over like we hope....fine, at least we'll have drinks and snacks to ourselves. damn...just once. i'd like you see you NOT trash one of my threads manny....

Steeda,your right. Everyone here is right. Were not very organized at the moment,it's a last minute thing and it's just something quick because of course TJ had something go wrong this week. Give us some time and i'm sure things will change. A lot of people don't understand how hard it is to have a piece of crap your fixing something on every time you turn around. Personally,i have a car that's about to fall apart. I hate it sometimes,but it's what i got. To be honest,i just want to keep it running (same with TJ) and we're doing what it takes to try and achieve that. So something as stupid as this may actually help more than anyone believes. I'm sure we'll have more organized ideas later. I'm pretty creative when it comes to figuring this shit out. But anyway,come get some cookies.

Tj,you beat me to the posting. Ass. :D

eh...i do my best...lol. see you tomorrow mornin, hun

[95civicgsr]

Steeda,your right. Everyone here is right. Were not very organized at the moment,it's a last minute thing and it's just something quick because of course TJ had something go wrong this week. Give us some time and i'm sure things will change. A lot of people don't understand how hard it is to have a piece of crap your fixing something on every time you turn around. Personally,i have a car that's about to fall apart. I hate it sometimes,but it's what i got. To be honest,i just want to keep it running (same with TJ) and we're doing what it takes to try and achieve that. So something as stupid as this may actually help more than anyone believes. I'm sure we'll have more organized ideas later. I'm pretty creative when it comes to figuring this shit out. But anyway,come get some cookies. We're talking about great american cookie company for .50 cents. Not some store bought shit....when i was 18 i drove a fiat spider and an 80 z28. anyone that knows fiats will tell you how much i have had to work on that car. sorry tj while this may seem like a good idea at the time i have to agree with steeda. you should get the proper paperwork done so that noone gets in trouble. i wish you guys luck in fixing your cars.

shadowsoldier,i dont kow where you get the idea that you guys are the only ones to every own a fixer up. i have owned my fair share of rust buckets as i am sure many other members have.

[Bulldog Stang]

TJ... I would advise you not to do it. You know that cops are on here all the time, especially from Victoria. What you are doing is not legal, plus it is a Violation of CITY ORDINANCE.

If you make $25.00 for the night aint gonna cover the $500 fine that you will get....., not to mention everyone helping you will get a citation as well, so if you hae 4 people helping you, then your fine will be $2000.

Asking people for money to help fix your car is morally wrong and illegal. If you want help, get a loan. get a sponsor to help cover cost of parts or discounts on parts. There are legal ways to do what you are doing. As of right now, with no paperwork, no Tax ID #, your "fund raiser" as you call it is ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont cry to anyone else when you have to pay un-godly amount of fines and possibly wind your ass up in jail. I aint pullin no strings to get your ass out of that one....... actually I will deny ever knowing you......

Fund Raisers are supposed to be for kids who are in High School wanting to go on a trip or something... Not grown-ups wanting to fix your car....

HEY EVERYONE.... GIVE ME MONEY... I WANT A SUPERCHARGER FOR MY MUSTANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I WILL SELL YOU A DR.THUNDER FROM WALMART FOR $1.00 EACH

HEY EVERYONE.... GIVE ME MONEY... I WANT A SUPERCHARGER FOR MY MUSTANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I WILL SELL YOU A DR.THUNDER FROM WALMART FOR $1.00 EACH

see bulldog, that's the difference though. we're not asking people for superchargers or any mods at all for that matter. if we bring in any money at all, it'll be for the general shit to keep our car runnin, like swaping out my oil pan, since i don't have the tools to do it properly...or getting a new stock distributor, or clutch or cvshafts. and shadow soldier needs a new transmission, cause her shit is MESSED up. i really don't see us getting into any kind of big trouble, i see if a cop does happen to come up there, he'll tell us to stop selling stuff, and we'll stop. i've never known a cop just be that big of an asshole as to just 1st time nail your ass to the wall. just to keep ya'll happy, we're reconsidering it...we may do it like this...we're handin out cokes and cookies...if you wanna donate to the cause great. that way it's not illegal. cause donations equal out to being gifts right? right...i'll talk to shadow soldier and find out what she wants to do

[DropTopDrifter]

On a serious note...how many cookies and cokes would ya'll have to get donations for to cover just the cost of the parts ?
I mean...it's like on dodgeball when they decide to have a carwash to raise money....yeah...you're offering a product at a low price....but just down the road legit businesses are offering the same thing w/ full service, AC/Heat, and many other things.
The idea is kinda bake-sale type thing....you just gotta consider if someone wants a can of cola or to run down to sonic and get all the fixins for it.
Not to mention the cost....lets say a new clutch runs 150 bucks off of ebay...that's 300 cokes and cookies....and that's if you have no initial cost for it....if you are selling them for 50cents....then it's gotta cost you at least 10-25cents each to purchase them originally. So you are talking about needing to sell 450 cokes and cookies to cover your expenses and have the money for the parts.
I think a different solution would work out better.
Why not have a garage sale....i believe if you advertise it at the advocate...they have all the paperwork to make sure your garage sale is a legal one...ask all your friends for their junk they wanna get rid of....have a big ol' garage sale (i have some wheels i need to make some money off of and some subs) make more money in one or 2 days....and you'll be keepin it legal as well.

Just an idea.

[leedog]

I see the point of the fundraiser, but do not think it is even morally right. Maybe try asking your boss for a raise instead. Or maybe a different job???

[slow-Mo]

I see the point of the fundraiser, but do not think it is even morally right. Maybe try asking your boss for a raise instead. Or maybe a different job???Do really expect people to donate their hard earned money to people to fix their cars? Leedog is right find higher paying jobs , do all of you work? Do any of yall have more than one job. I know a few people who have full time jobs and still work a part time job and sometimes two part time jobs to get the stuff they want!!! So more money is not out of reach, there is plenty of places hiring for the holidays.I cant believe some of the shit you people come up with!!!!

stephen ur true on that...but thing is. all we're paying for is cokes and ice. and as i said inthe first post, we're not planning on getting all of the money that we need in this one weekend. we're planning other things as well. bar b ques and such. things where a bunch of people can come out and have fun and eat. and again like i said before...we're probably changeing plans, we'll hand out the cokes and cookies and hope for donations. maybe people will want to help out (cause our friends probably will) and maybe they won't. so if ya'll want cokes and cookies, bring ur happy asses out there, yall can either donate to our cause, or just sap off of us, and have a good time hanging out with everyone. i'll have my ps2 and games out there, so at the very least, we'll be able to play games. and again...if you don't like it, or you don't think it's right, and you're afraid you'll get into trouble being out there with us...don't come. thanks ahead of time for everyone that does help tonight. i'll be out there about 11:30

Ok,i understand everyone's point. But i never expected a whole page of lectures and what i see as punishment. I figured we'd actually get support from some people,in this case it seems to be the opposite. J,i agree with you and thank you for being nice about it. My car is crap,i just need to keep it running so i can keep my job. I really don't have money to fix it up though. I'm trying to save,but every time i turn around,something comes up. Anyway,were obviously going with what TJ has decided to do. I just wish everyone here wouldn't put us down for just trying to keep our cars running. It's nice that we get trashed,and if it continues to be like this than i don't think i'll be on here much longer.

[DropTopDrifter]

I'll bring my punishment stick out there :D

i might stop by...don't plan on partying tonight as i have work in the morning...i might even donate a buck.

I still think other methods would be better....maybe we should start up a vtownracing.com swap meet.
Sell used parts....and other auto stuff that is just laying around.

I'll bring my punishment stick out there :D

i might stop by...don't plan on partying tonight as i have work in the morning...i might even donate a buck.

I still think other methods would be better....maybe we should start up a vtownracing.com swap meet.
Sell used parts....and other auto stuff that is just laying around.

That's actually a reall good idea. Someone with something positive! Haha. Yes,come by and give us a dollar,haha. :D

[leedog]

That's actually a reall good idea. Someone with something positive! Haha. Yes,come by and give us a dollar,haha. :D

Uhh, asking for a raise is very positive. In fact, I can think only of a few other things that would make my day better than to get a raise because I deserved it. Just as a personal experience, when I was 16, I wanted a car real bad. My parents were not going to help me out, so I did it on my own. I mowed yards, detailed cars, even hung christmas lights for others in my neighborhood. After all of that, I payed cash for a 94 Honda Accord. Not the best car, but a car. I know that most everyone on here doesn't live with their parents anymore, and everyone has their own personal situations. Maybe some have added responsibilities, and I respect that. I just think that if you want something bad enough, you could work for it, instead of performing a "resale" of a particular product. I would pay any of yall to detail one of my vehicles the same price I would pay courtesy, and rather do it anyway, because you have made it apparent that you do need the money. Just think there are other ways of making money for the things that you want and need than a quick fix resale. Keep in mind these are my own oppinions and personal experiences, and might not apply to any of you. Just trying to think "Positive"

[Bulldog Stang]

I think I have said enough on this subject and refrain from any other comments on this matter. I am sure I have pissed off enough people for one day.

Bulldog

I think I have said enough on this subject and refrain from any other comments on this matter. I am sure I have pissed off enough people for one day.

Bulldog

I think everyone just rained on TJ's and my parade. We do appreciate the concern though...

[95civicgsr]

Ok,i understand everyone's point. But i never expected a whole page of lectures and what i see as punishment. I figured we'd actually get support from some people,in this case it seems to be the opposite. J,i agree with you and thank you for being nice about it. My car is crap,i just need to keep it running so i can keep my job. I really don't have money to fix it up though. I'm trying to save,but every time i turn around,something comes up. Anyway,were obviously going with what TJ has decided to do. I just wish everyone here wouldn't put us down for just trying to keep our cars running. It's nice that we get trashed,and if it continues to be like this than i don't think i'll be on here much longer.shadowsoldier i am trying to be fair. i know what its like to be broke and needing money. i really dont think anyone is trashing you guys,if you want to see trashing tell tj to show you his thread on h-i. you have to remember this is a public forum,anything you post up will have a reaction. sometimes it will be good sometimes it wont. noone is talking crap to or about you guys they just dont agree with your idea and are trying to keep you guys out of trouble. i hope that you reconsider thinking about leaving the forum,its really not that bad.

[Stealth assassin]

HEY EVERYONE.... GIVE ME MONEY... I WANT A SUPERCHARGER FOR MY MUSTANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I WILL SELL YOU A DR.THUNDER FROM WALMART FOR $1.00 EACH



:lol: HAHAHAHA

[Steeda Snakes]

Ok,i understand everyone's point. But i never expected a whole page of lectures and what i see as punishment. I figured we'd actually get support from some people,in this case it seems to be the opposite. J,i agree with you and thank you for being nice about it. My car is crap,i just need to keep it running so i can keep my job. I really don't have money to fix it up though. I'm trying to save,but every time i turn around,something comes up. Anyway,were obviously going with what TJ has decided to do. I just wish everyone here wouldn't put us down for just trying to keep our cars running. It's nice that we get trashed,and if it continues to be like this than i don't think i'll be on here much longer.shadowsoldier i am trying to be fair. i know what its like to be broke and needing money. i really dont think anyone is trashing you guys,if you want to see trashing tell tj to show you his thread on h-i. you have to remember this is a public forum,anything you post up will have a reaction. sometimes it will be good sometimes it wont. noone is talking crap to or about you guys they just dont agree with your idea and are trying to keep you guys out of trouble. i hope that you reconsider thinking about leaving the forum,its really not that bad.

TJ and Shadow

J had deleted the first post of TJ's concerning this topic, because of the type of responses he felt it was going to generate and our own feelings about this "fund raiser" and the legality thereof. TJ and I had discussions back and forth over this subject. I was not through discussing this subject through PMs, but he posted it again.

As I said in my first reply to this thread, I questioned the legality and morality of this "fund raiser", and also voiced my concerns on how the public would view this event. I decided to let it continue to let TJ see for himself how this idea would be received and also as a sort of marketing test for the event.

The reaction on the board did not go very well.

How did the event go?

"How did the event go? "

Not so great. I don't think we even have any money. Whatever. It doesn't make a difference to me anyway because as i see it,if i don't get a new car soon than there really is no point in even trying to fix the shit i got now. Let's just say everything that can go wrong,is....