Project LSX454 G8

[ebaker]

Just ordered my engine and I'll be receiving it Monday. I'm going with the LSX 454 from GMPP. Planning on leaving it stock for the first 50,xxx miles for warranty purposes and then changing it all up. Can't wait to get this bitch on the road again and to see what Patrick can do with the 454.

I'll post pics when we get it installed.

[0ne_sik]

sweet lol

[oldcutlass86]

Heh....be prepared to grenade all of your driveline in the process. It's gonna get very expensive, very fast. Of course, since you already got the LSx 454, you already know that.......lol.

[1C62NV]

Nice:wtg: Must have SUPER CHARGER:)

[ebaker]

Heh....be prepared to grenade all of your driveline in the process. It's gonna get very expensive, very fast. Of course, since you already got the LSx 454, you already know that.......lol.

As I've come to realize in the past year you've gotta pay to play with the big dogs. I've already got my slush fund started for the built tranny and rear...

[Tokyo Shift]

Dang!!! 454!! That's nice, what power you lookin' to make right off the bat?

[rumblebox]

the 6L80 should hold up nicely for a little while. the rearend is pretty strong too, but good luck hooking with stock suspension.

[1C62NV]

When its all assembled, the LSX 454 weighs 568 pounds--thats 128 pounds more than the LS7. That weight gets you an engine tested to GM production-car standards that puts out 620 hp and 590 lb-ft. Redline is a very conservative 6,500 rpm.:wtg:

[rumblebox]

not to mention, that ratig is with shitty manifolts, stock intake, and a baby cam.

[ebaker]

I'm willing to bet it puts down about 525. I think the drive train loss is about 18% but I could be very wrong. We shall see though.

[THAT WAS EASY]

shoot put one of those PG cams in and puro 750rwhp

[rumblebox]

with headers and a fast intake it should put down 600 at the wheels. it's grossly under rated

[1C62NV]

Careful what you put on it or it could put 454 ci all over the ground.:lmao:

[0ne_sik]

Careful what you put on it or it could put 454 ci all over the ground.:lmao:
lol yeah that stuff is highly corrosive to lether goods I.E. belts, boots, "wallets", ect.

[Tokyo Shift]

shoot put one of those PG cams in and puro 750rwhp
:lmao:

[THAT WAS EASY]

:drag:pssshhtttt

[rumblebox]

lol at like 8500 rpms?

[BoostedSS]

Should make some good power....

[ebaker]

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I'm really digging the LSX stamped all over the engine. Should hopefully have it in the car in the next day or two. Trying to acquire a few parts to make it work.

[BoostedSS]

What heads come with the 454 LSX ?

[98Aggie]

Ls7 heads

[ebaker]

LS7 heads. In a few months it will get some afr heads and a nice cam to push it a little further up there in the horsepower range.

[oldcutlass86]

Heh....if that thing even remotely hooks w/that fucker, you will grenade trans/rear end for sure. Man, must be nice having deep pockets like you have. I don't even know when I'll ever be able to get my heap running again. Looks like you're in for some serious fun times ahead.

[Tokyo Shift]

I'm really digging the LSX stamped all over the engine. Should hopefully have it in the car in the next day or two. Trying to acquire a few parts to make it work.

:wtg: Car should be a Giant :bump:

[0ne_sik]

Heh....if that thing even remotely hooks w/that fucker, you will grenade trans/rear end for sure. Man, must be nice having deep pockets like you have. I don't even know when I'll ever be able to get my heap running again. Looks like you're in for some serious fun times ahead.

dang you are sounding a little bipolar like this:

“I’m not bi-polar, I’m bi-winning. I win here and I win there.”

“The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning.”

“I probably took more than anybody could survive. I was banging seven-gram rocks. Because that’s how I roll. I have one speed. I have one gear: Go.”

“I am on a drug – it’s called Charlie Sheen. It’s not available because if you try it, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body.”

or is it more congratulations i hate your guts now. :flipoff:

[oldcutlass86]

Uh.....have no idea what you were trying to say/imply, but I'll give it a try.

Am I a little jealous, just a smidge. Am I happy for him, you betcha. The fact remains that 454 cubes of LSx engine will destroy pretty much any OE driveline with the exception of maybe a 2500 truck. The 6L80 is not that strong, fairly stout yes, but it can be broken. My goals for my heap are a lot simpler/cheaper. If I had the coin to do up a car like his, I would have done the driveline upgrades first, because I don't like getting stranded from broken parts. But then again, that's just me. Eric does it his way and as long as he's happy w/the results, that's all that matters. I congratulate his effort as it will truly be a one of a kind sedan when it's done.

[Tokyo Shift]

So are you gonna shoot for the G8 record (in the 1/4)? Or is this going to be the first step in a balls out 4 door sedan track attack road course king!!??!

[ebaker]

I'm not sure actually. still trying to decide. I'm going to go out to the road course when I get it running and see if it's my cup of tea and then decide from there.

[americanmusc1e]

YIKES!!!! that thing looks like alot of fun....... subscribed.......
:95civic::95civic:

[ebaker]

I'm buying my intake either tonight or tomorrow. Looks pretty good in there!!

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[oldcutlass86]

Those valve covers compliment the rest of the car. Looks to be one hell of a ride when done! Amazing that you can get big block cubes from engine size no bigger than oem.

[Tokyo Shift]

That does look friggin' nice!

[0ne_sik]

:lies:im going to let the cat out of the bag he just bought the valve covers and all the other covers and put it on a stock block sorry eric i just couldn't take the lying any more:busted:
oh by the way im :nowork: today

[ebaker]

haha if I wasn't still drunk from last night I'd kick you're ass!

[SHovV]

bad ass build you have goin on man

[98Aggie]

Going to be fun in Victoria soon. Ebaker with his 454, I have 2 440 vettes going together one NA and one with a F1r procharger (~650rwhp and ~950rwhp), a 454 vette (~710rwhp). have a 408 going in a vette or a camaro (~550rwhp), then my projects if I can get to work on them.


And looks like a new CTS-V coupe and Zr-1 are headed to the shop for some work.

[ebaker]

Yea no kidding! Can't wait til you get one of your cars done Kurt!

[BoostedSS]

Going to be fun in Victoria soon. Ebaker with his 454, I have 2 440 vettes going together one NA and one with a F1r procharger (~650rwhp and ~950rwhp), a 454 vette (~710rwhp). have a 408 going in a vette or a camaro (~550rwhp), then my projects if I can get to work on them.
And looks like a new CTS-V coupe and Zr-1 are headed to the shop for some work.


Nice

[hardwork]

Going to be fun in Victoria soon. Ebaker with his 454, I have 2 440 vettes going together one NA and one with a F1r procharger (~650rwhp and ~950rwhp), a 454 vette (~710rwhp). have a 408 going in a vette or a camaro (~550rwhp), then my projects if I can get to work on them.
And looks like a new CTS-V coupe and Zr-1 are headed to the shop for some work.


An how many of these will show up to the lot? Or are these set up for road racing?

[Tokyo Shift]

An how many of these will show up to the lot? Or are these set up for road racing?

Lets see... Independent rears on all those cars. Road race ready!!!

[THAT WAS EASY]

An how many of these will show up to the lot? Or are these set up for road racing?
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::l mao::lmao:

[Tokyo Shift]

Going to be fun in Victoria soon.

Soon as in 8 second maxima soon or 65 Shelby soon?

[98Aggie]

99 camaro

[ebaker]

I can tell you I'll be out there hardwork!

[THAT WAS EASY]

I can tell you I'll be out there hardwork!
yeah if dont do another engine swap in between calling out hardwork again!

[Tokyo Shift]

I can tell you I'll be out there hardwork!

Don't blow that shit road racing!

[THAT WAS EASY]

man that shop must be way out in the boonies,because it seems like when people get tuned there they never find ther way to the lott or the track.:lmao:

[98Aggie]

what intake did you get? You are going to be close to needed to upgrade your fuel system too.

going to be interesting on what it puts out - I've seen 500 too close to 600 on some different build installs depending on supporting bolts on etc.

[ebaker]

I got a ported ls7 intake for the time being. Yea I have quite a bit of stuff that I still need to upgrade. I'm just trying to get it back on the road so I don't have to drive my dads POS grand prix anymore.

I'm looking forward to it as well. Might be changing up the exhaust as well. It's a little too tame for my taste. Lol

[98Aggie]

need to put the cherry bombs back on - I think it sounds nasty at idle and didn't drone - had that exotic sound to it when coupled to the mid muffler that was on there.

[ebaker]

Did Patrick get rid of them? I'll have to ask him about them.

[98Aggie]

the wife complained about being to loud at idle so he traded the doctor with the GXP for his mufflers. But they could be made again. I have most of the stuff, would only have to order the tips and mufflers

[ebaker]

badass. I'll have to order it all.

[ebaker]

Should be cranking up the car within an hour or so. Can't wait to hear it running! videos are coming no worries!

[1C62NV]

Nice! Idk what you sent me ??? I have a dumb phone and recieved a blank screen:confused:

[oldcutlass86]

That mms had no audio meistro.........how's it coming along???

[98Aggie]

Get the breakin done and finish rhe tune next week?

[ebaker]

Here ya go Robert. I sent you this.
YouTube - ‪2009 Pontiac G8 GT LSX 454‬‏

And kurt I'm dropping it by patrick's tonight so he can do the tuning sometime this week/weekend. I'm guessing I'll drive it easy for a week or so. Then keep it above 60 when I punch it so I don't break anything. lol

[1C62NV]

SWEET!!! A 60 roll:slow04:

[americanmusc1e]

stock airbox??? it breathes well enough???



sounds good though.......

[ebaker]

for the time being it will. Going to look into something to use for a little while until I can afford the fast lsxr 102 and the rotofab or something along those lines.

[1C62NV]

Enter it in the Mile. You can camp with us, you better watch for registration to open though it should close pretty fast.

[ebaker]

When is the next one anyways? I'd love to see how much faster it will get than the old 167. I really want to see how I can handle myself against that little red car you have in the garage!

[1C62NV]

Ost. 21-23. Registration isnt open yet but you gotta keep an eye on it. Im making some changes as well so you better pack a lunch:hide:

[ebaker]

ok sweet. I'm interested to see what changes you have up you're sleeve!

[98Aggie]

Sounds like your going to need a stall the way that thing sits there and thumps Eric. Sounds good - once Patrick finish the tune the fun begins.

[ebaker]

Yup that's what I was thinking. What do you think 3200 or 3600?

[BoostedSS]

Sounds good.. Cant wait to finish up my POS

[ebaker]

Sounds good.. Cant wait to finish up my POS

Are you the guy with the twin rear mount turbo's? Post up some pics!

[BoostedSS]

Are you the guy with the twin rear mount turbo's? Post up some pics!


negative..

[98Aggie]

I thinking your talking about Craig which had the APS kit. He sold that car to someone not in victoria.

[BoostedSS]

Are you the guy with the twin rear mount turbo's? Post up some pics!

My POS is no where near a twin turbo setup... Just need a converter and its off the dyno hoping for 450rwhp .:wtg:

[ebaker]

Oh that's a possibility. What the specs on it?

[98Aggie]

Oh that's a possibility. What the specs on it?
ebay motor and turbo???

[BoostedSS]

Yeah, that's my setup. POS.

[ebaker]

Haha sounds like a badass car nontheless. I would love to see some pics on it. I might be going out on the 11th as well. I'm off the San Antonio this weekend so I won't be around.

[98Aggie]

so you take it to SA this weekend?

[ebaker]

Nah I drove by but decided it would be a good idea to change the break in oil out of it before I do anything too crazy. And after spending 1600 bucks on tires I'm scared to spin em. Lol

[98Aggie]

not to race - your driving it right now in san antonio?

[ebaker]

Ohhh yea sure did. Loving the looks I get while sitting at a light and the whole car starts shaking. Lol reminds me of my dads old 72 chevelle with the 454 in it.

[1C62NV]

You might want to think about Urethane mounts. Might be wise to get off those OE rubbers

[ebaker]

I never even thought of that. Damn I need to sit down and make a list of everything I need so I don't forget anything.

[Garrett Smith]

Dont worry too much about the mile dude, If all came to shit and you didnt register I could call Jay or Shannon and have them throw you on the line up like I did with Amar last year on the second day of the event. Seems strict as hell to the untrained eye on the internet, but in person when conversing with the VP and director of NASA wich I can do at anytime given the spots they have put me in, It just takes a favor to one of the tech guys and a good word with a girl working the roster Gina!

[98Aggie]

Yep shannon is cool - know her since 2004.

[Garrett Smith]

Yep shannon is cool - know her since 2004.

Hell yeah she is man, Outgoing, Outspoken,Wants to be in the fun, wants to have fun, wants to MAKE the fun happen, and wants the ppl to have a blast doing whatever they wish to do! And its great since shes the VP of NASA and all events are technically and even more so sanctioned!

[ebaker]

Damn, it's nice to have connections huh. I just need to find a sponsor to put a built 6l80 in the car so I don't have to pay for it. lol Maybe I should propose it to FLT or something?

[1C62NV]

Wait!!! What are saying here Nelson?? Is there a chance to due this Mile thing for testing opposite of the events????

[Garrett Smith]

Im not really sure what your question is honestly, About what your asking, If you enter the event period, You can do testing and never make a wot/full pass.

You can rent the track, but it would be tri sub-contracting via NASA, through Goliad's facility grounds and county strip, You would be paying ungodly amounts for it. As in you could have bought another car.

[1C62NV]

My mistake, the way I read what you posted it sounded as if you may have connections opposite of the track events. I was thinking there would have been a chance to do some testing at times without all the overhead. I know what the event consists of since I have run there myself, I just would like a chance to try some things before race day on a closed coarse.

[1C62NV]

Eric, we would have to look at your motor mounts. I believe they are the same isolators as the c5/c6. If they are you get a sweet deal on some of my Pfadt mounts.:wtg:

[Garrett Smith]

Ha, hell man, Its fucking Goliad, Go out to the airstrip, their is no gate! ppl go out there alot man, run down the mile, just keep in mind, that strip aint been swept or prepped, meaning, u going 180+ and hitting a large peice of cement at the end of the runway, is...no good, we eyeball that shit for hours and sweep it clean before the cars get to the paddocks, I drove my supra down it and its pretty scary dodging shit that seems to be large or sharp or metal, then you find out its only a damn tumbleweed or patch of tall grass, etc.. I did it before we started tho so it wasnt prepped, then afterwards when i drove down it, i was working, so i couldnt do shit, like nothing over 80 while going up and down track, cuz it appeared to some crew workers, HEY THERES A CAR ON THE TRACK WTF, and im actually like driving down to timing gear, just looks like it to the idiots.
By all means, go out there and fuck around, no..its not legal, but goliads police officers are some pretty understanding and leniant guys, daniel will probably just say, yeah go ahead, but dont be driving in the grass or anything and no burnouts.

[1C62NV]

Goliad now belongs to the Navy and its considered active . The new event is in Beeville and the last time I looked it was way to close to the prison for any illegal activity.

[Garrett Smith]

ha no, navy does touchdowns there, but as far as like.. using hanger and stationing there, no. I havnt seen one in site, yes, they have been working on that for years, it was rightfully the naval air base's out of courpus anyways, sold for some rediculous prices over the years, some dont make sense, some of it has to do with the council hiding things, its weird shit, the mineral rights is the best part, they belong souly to one man.

[98Aggie]

Guess you haven't been keeping up with the navy is doing out there.

They had to move to beeville in MAy becasue of all the construction the Navy is starting to do at Goliad. which began before the March mile was over.

[Garrett Smith]

Tisk tisk, Im happy to say.. i did not know this.. because i finally got the hell out of that place hahahaha!

[ebaker]

Sweet! Let me know when you come out to kurts and I'll bring the car by!

[ebaker]

Well the G8 did some great work last night and had some fun with a heads/cam c6 vette. There were some good races and I'm very happy to say I came out on top. One vette down and plenty more where that came from...

[BoostedSS]

Guess I left to early again. Sounds like your car is going stronger.

[ebaker]

Yea I didn't make it out til about 12 and we went to surplus. Pm me your number and I'll text you when I'm going out

[jordanj]

Sounds like i need to hurry and get my car tuned so i can come out an play.

[jitsumania]

Hey Eric, got some track numbers yet. That thing sounds like a real beast. Great thing about it is that is that it's also a people mover as well.

[rumblebox]

damn. check out this lurker lol

sup rick?

[ebaker]

I haven't gone to the track yet because I want to save up for my rearend before I go and snap it when I hook. I'm guessing it's in the mid to high 11's. We've missed you over here and on the street!

[jitsumania]

Where are yall hangin at on the weekends. Would like to take Sleeper out for a cruise.
Would love to see your car Eric.
Lurker my ass Rumblebox. How you been Brother?

[ebaker]

It just depends. Sometimes I'm at radio shack in front of walmart then surplus and then the other night we hung out at autozone across from whataburger on navarro

[1C62NV]

Well the G8 did some great work last night and had some fun with a heads/cam c6 vette. There were some good races and I'm very happy to say I came out on top. One vette down and plenty more where that came from...
Tell teh truth:confused: Were you really running a heads cam ls2 C6 vette? If you beat it, it must have been that used blue 07 coupe that the dealership did all that testing on.:( Bet you wont beat my Cam only car:lmao:

[ebaker]

No lies here boss. I'm pretty sure it is the vette you're talking about. Know anything about it? And yea there is no way in hell I could hang with your car! Lol

[1C62NV]

I just giving you shit. Congrats on the kill, that c6 owner better be ready to spend some cash if he wants to hang:wtg:

[ebaker]

Haha I figured you were no doubt. I'd love to run against you're car just to see how it compares.

[BoostedSS]

I wanna play

[Tokyo Shift]

Me too :)

I heard all these rumors about who bought the Vette and if they are true, it'll prolly have a bottle in it by next weekend :sign5:

[ebaker]

Yes sir you are most definitely right about that one. Lol

[Tokyo Shift]

So is this C6 an LS2 or 3? Manual or auto. What year?

[98Aggie]

LS2 auto

[c-low]

I heard the car saturday night when you swung by radioshack. Sounds really mean man.

[THAT WAS EASY]

what vette is this? what color is it

[ebaker]

It's the midnight blue(not sure what the actual color is) with paper plates. I'm not sure what year it is though. It's a clean looking car no doubt.

Thanks for the compliments cruisinlow67! I love the sound of it! I had so many crazy and amazed looks this weekend while I was out. Kinda justified spending about 16 grand on the engine swap....lol

[THAT WAS EASY]

cool. hell yeah grats on the runs

[c-low]

16 grand? Holy fuck! Wanna buy me some parts?

[ebaker]

Thanks! Yes sir it was a big chunk of change! lol I'm BROKE for awhile though....

[hardwork]

Grocery getter FTW. Good kill to add to the list, did y'all dig it or roll it out?

[ebaker]

dig twice and roll from 30 once. He got me on the first dig and I got him on the other two. You do any roll racing anymore? After seeing you're car launch I know I have no luck at keeping up with you from a dig. lol

[BoostedSS]

Roll racing , what mph do yall start and shut it down at ? Trying to see if I can do that ..

[ebaker]

we ran 30-120. It's nice because I only have a small amount of wheel spin, but I still believe that dig racing is the only way to go. I just don't do it well with the stock rear and street tires. lol

[BoostedSS]

Is that what everybody is doing it ?

[ebaker]

Probably not. Some may start out at like 40, 50, 60. And then you have those CRAZY ass people that do it from 100+ lol

[hardwork]

dig twice and roll from 30 once. He got me on the first dig and I got him on the other two. You do any roll racing anymore? After seeing you're car launch I know I have no luck at keeping up with you from a dig. lol


If you give me my dig run I'll run ya from a low roll. I will be out sat, should be a good turn out.

[ebaker]

Oh cool. Of course. I do it for fun these days anyways. I probably won't be out Saturday though. Got too much shit to do this weekend in Yoakum.

[Tokyo Shift]

Good gosh I don't even start it out at 100!!!! Still searching for some tires too!! Although doubt they will help me from a dig, maybe they'll let me hook 3rd :hide:

[ebaker]

get you some damn nitto dr's man! or even the mickey thompson dr's. I loved those on my car. Are you as scared to hook with your IRS as I am with your power level?

[Tokyo Shift]

Maybe at the track which I don't see myself going balls out anyways, the street I'm not too terribly worried. I just don't think it will hook that well. Maybe I'm wrong, on my old setup 480/420 the Mickeys held great. Currently making almost 100rwhp more than that and a little more torque too.

[Tokyo Shift]

I will be out sat, should be a good turn out.

I'll see ya then :wtg:

[ebaker]

I have yet to out a drag radial under it but I will be in the next few months probably. Just wanna make sure I'm ready to replaced something in the event it breaks. My car is going to be a totally different car the next time y'all see me out

[jordanj]

Someone told me you were making like 800hp joe lol

[Tokyo Shift]

I have yet to out a drag radial under it but I will be in the next few months probably. Just wanna make sure I'm ready to replaced something in the event it breaks. My car is going to be a totally different car the next time y'all see me out

And when will that be???

[Tokyo Shift]

Someone told me you were making like 800hp joe lol

800 horses at the tire would be awesome

[Tokyo Shift]

Yeah, I swore I heard Justin or Alfie tell that dude with the Shelby that I was making 800 or 900 horses that night. Its fun letting people guess sometimes but man, the numbers are all over the place!

[jordanj]

i guess people just assumed it when you were even with aarons busa that one night.

[THAT WAS EASY]

800 horses at the tire would be awesome

psssshhhhttttt

[c-low]

Hell if people are saying 8-900hp then why not correct them and say you have a little over 1000? Knowing some of the people around here they'll believe it.

[THAT WAS EASY]

hell if people are saying 8-900hp then why not correct them and say you have a little over 1000? Knowing some of the people around here they'll believe it.


:+1: Alot of bs can get thrown around here and some people will believe anything.

[jordanj]

hey guys i just made 900hp on stock motor and ran a 7.99@175 on street tires.

[c-low]

hey guys i just made 900hp on stock motor and ran a 7.99@175 on street tires.
Showoff... Where's that john guy with the million horsepower rx7 that sounds like a 747 on steroids? He'll beat your grocery getter.

[ebaker]

Joe im gonna shoot foe going out next weekend. Last weekend I burned through a whole tank of gas and I didn't like that too much so I'm taking this weekend off to change some stuff up and to detail the shit out of my car

Come on Joe don't lie we all know you are making 2000rwhp

[Tokyo Shift]

i guess people just assumed it when you were even with aarons busa that one night.
Yea, we had some good runs (at the Moscow unlimited, so completely legal....). But everyone knows when you go up to the speed we do (170 twice, 180 and 195) stock bikes kind of "peter out". I was curious to the outcome as well, knowing that the rider on a bike makes a huge difference. Now that modded liter bike that came down from Houston, my car ran like a freak that night :evil:

[Tokyo Shift]

:+1: Alot of bs can get thrown around here and some people will believe anything.

So true. Angel was texting me from the lot last night saying that John said once again (he told Davitt this a few weeks ago, and no telling who else) that his car whooped mine OFF the bottle. If that's the case I got a 'Busa and a modded liter bike for him to run, sans bottle of course.

[Tokyo Shift]

Come on Joe don't lie we all know you are making 2000rwhp

Gotsta be, theres an 8 second Maxima coming to town..... Eventually...... Is there a sucker emoticon?? :lmao:

[Tokyo Shift]

And damm! Yall guys either up late or up early!

[Tokyo Shift]

:+1: Alot of bs can get thrown around here and some people will believe anything.

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/joeboost/finalresize.jpg

To clear the BS.........................

We are thinking that on a cooler day it might make closer to 600, another reason I want to put meth on it ASAP!!

[Tokyo Shift]

psssshhhhttttt

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[rumblebox]

Lurker my ass Rumblebox. How you been Brother?

im good. my daughter is due in a month.




hey eric, the axles will break way before the rearend will. just grab a set from gforce.

[Tokyo Shift]

im good. my daughter is due in a month.


:) Awesome, congratulations man :wtg:

[Garrett Smith]

Your all fags, you all need to get a dodge stratus, thats where the power is baby!!

[rumblebox]

lolz

[98Aggie]

So what happen today Eric?????

[rumblebox]

Do tell

[ebaker]

posted over in the other thread